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Sunday, October 11, 2009 15:27 PDT

I'm a Virgo female and I met this Cancer guy last summer who I really clicked with. We saw each other multiple times a week and he really seemed like he was wanting to make things serious with me. Unfortunately, once fall started I was only able to come home on the wkends because I'm finishing up my degree out of the city. Around this time (fall '08), things started to come up with his ex-girlfriend (a Sagittarius) who he has children with, basically where she confronted me and accused me of trying to steal him, etc. Since then, our relationship has been all over the place. We saw each other infrequently, we talked now and then, but whenever we did he seemed like he was still ino me. I've asked him directly multiple times if he thinks we should just be friends and he usually avoids the questions, but never says no. He also claimed that his ex just likes to start trouble and maintains he's not with her. Even today he says he cares about me and wants to see me but never follows through on any of this. It's been pretty much a year now and I would like to know if I should move on. Even though I care about him and I know it takes a lot of time for Cancers to trust people and move forward, I don't want to waste my time. And honestly, I feel like he has feelings for both of us but he may be afraid to leave the familiar behind and try to have a new relationship with me. Any insight into this?

I know this was a lot of info (sorry), but if anyone has any advice I'd really appreciate it. Thanks so much in advance.

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Sunday, October 11, 2009 16:05 PDT

Cancer's are attached to home and family and his ex is probably keeping him close to home by asking him to stay involved with the family. If he is distancing himself from you then you have your answer right there. I mean who can be at two places at one time?




Sunday, October 11, 2009 17:39 PDT

Same thing happened to me (and mine was a Cancer guy too). Run like **** and go find yourself a real man.




Sunday, October 11, 2009 17:56 PDT

Cancer and Sagittarius Do Not get along.As long is there is trust issues involved.We have very good communication.But, a Cancer cannot handle the fact that the Saggitarius likes it cake and eat it too.Saggitarius roam free too much.They cannot cope in the relationship department.They can't settle down in one place where a Cancer just wants to stay put.This Cancer guy having a kid..Leave him alone to think about what he wants.He's got someone telling him in two different directions on what to do.He's confused.He knows where you are if he wants to come back.




Sunday, October 11, 2009 19:51 PDT

Hey everyone, thanks for your input! I didn't know if tarot could answer any of this, so I figured I'd give it a try. Every now and then I'll have moments like today where I'm really bothered by the situation, but for the most part I handle it well. I'm just going to keep keepin' on and see what happens. There's only so much of this I can control anyway...

Oh and his Sag ex supposedly cheated on him. I thought that would've been an obvious no-go for him considering Cancer trust issues, but throw in a couple of kids and I guess it's not that simple lol.

Thanks again...if there are any other comments, feel free to add :)




Sunday, October 11, 2009 22:08 PDT

If his ex whom he has children with wants you to stay away, that means that his child or children still have a chance to have both parents together. Anyone should stay away and let him think things through and come to his senses and go back to his ex. He has a responcibility as a father and is carrying on an illusion that the love with the right one must be perfect. No. It is God that is perfect. Humans are imperfect. It is his responcibility to stay with his ex. He must grow up and accept his choice that he took when he got children with her. I understand men as quite more movable than us women. They easily give up when in trouble. Of course there were difficulties when she was nurturing her baby and he did not get his thing in bed with her as often as before. He would probably do the same to you if he gets a child with you. So you should listen to his ex. She knows that he is movable (from woman to woman), but she wants him to learn to take his responsibility and stay with her and the kids. She is right about what she is saying to you. But it is not your mistake, it is his mistake. And she knows that. And the reason it is a mistake, is because he must stay with his children. You are not a mistake, you just saw that he liked you. But that is not enough. He must also be able to accept his responcibility. And that he has not fully done, even if he says so. The proof is that he left his girlfriend and children for a new relationship with an illusion of freedom. But we must understand that there is no freedom without boundaries.




Sunday, October 11, 2009 22:31 PDT

Hi HangedWoman...

I understand what you're saying but let me just clarify some points. As far as I know (and again, I can only go based on what he's told me and those who knew him before I did), he definitely did not leave her for me. I would never get involved with an attached man, so when we met I was under the impression that he was single because that's what I was told. We have a mutual friend (who's actually my cousin) and that's how we met...he had dated one of her friends prior to dating me, so it's not like he abandoned his family to start something new with me. They'd been broken up for well over a year when we first met.

I definitely respect the fact that he has children, but I believe you can be a responsible father w/o having a relationship with the mother if that's the case. Obviously I think most people want to be in a relationship with the father/mother of their kids, but the divorce rate in the U.S. has shown us how that works out. Not to mention the number of single mothers and fathers. And while that's a difficult road, many people are successful at it. Her infidelity (and maybe some other factors) drove him away from her, not finding someone else. They'd been together for several years and then he caught her cheating on him. Despite this, as far as I know he's been a caring father and sees his children multiple times a week. In my opinion, staying with someone shouldn't be a "responsibility' as you put it. You make it work if it's good for you as an individual and for the other person as an individual, not on behalf of anyone else. Your relationship with your partner doesn't wholly constitute whether or not your a good parent (although some couples let this affect their children), but certainly your relationship with your children does.

As far as listening to his ex, I've already listened to her verbally abusive (lol..sounds silly, but true) rants against me, and I've taken very little from them. I know that she sees me as a threat to their relationship and that she doesn't want me to pursue him for obvious reasons. However, she's made up stories about me in the past, so I take any "useful" information she gives with a grain of salt, honestly.

Again I appreciate your insight but I don't understand where you're getting some of these ideas...are they just personal opinion? For instance, you say that while she was nurturing their child he did not "get his thing in bed with her", insinuating that he left her for other sexual relationships (which didn't happen). I see on your other posts that you don't do tarot or use cards/tools, so how are you coming to these conclusions, if you don't mind me asking?




Sunday, October 11, 2009 22:42 PDT

Oh, and just another thing. You say I should stay away so his children can have both parents together, and again I respect the institution of the household which is why I've never made anything difficult. I have my own life and I'm not trying to intrude on his---I want to be a part of his life and to have him as a part of mine if he's willing to do so. Me confronting him about our relationship is just me asking him to be honest with me about how he feels, not making him choose b/t his family and me as a girlfriend. I'm mindful of his family but I certainly have to maintain some sort of leverage for myself in this situation, because if I don't, who will?

I think people with children should be EXTREMELY careful before introducing a new boyfriend/girlfriend/what have you into their families. He knows this. In the case that we end up together, whenever he's ready for me to meet his children I'll happily do so. And because I know what kind of person I am (a GOOD one, lol), I can say that I would never do anything to jeopardize his relationship with them. I can't see how me potentially being his girlfriend will throw his family into turmoil and make him neglect his responsibilities if he's clear with his ex and all others involved on this front...




Friday, October 16, 2009 10:51 PDT

If245706>>I think people with children should be EXTREMELY careful before introducing a new boyfriend/girlfriend/what have you into their families.
Sandran>>I agree...Which is why I WILL NOT go/meet a man with small children.I do not need the added drama and aggravation of raising another couple's children,>ow..If..the guy was widowed,It's different.I just will not hook up with a man when both parents are still alive.I am not a homewrecker.




Friday, October 16, 2009 10:59 PDT

I just look at it as this...If you see a man with a child.Think of them as married.And do not introduce yourself .You do not get hurt.If the man has a problem.Then it is his...Now~A~~Days these men have children call themselves married.When they are not really.Common Law is not being married.Unless it's on paper.All it is ..A convenient shacking up option...Judge Judy calls it "Playing House".